It's Called An Affectation

GASP!

A simple ride-share to the airport turns into an unexpected masterclass in conversation and craft. With two young, affected passengers in the back, we move seamlessly from small talk to something deeper: how to create safety so people open up, when to hit record and when to circle back, and why empathy always outshines a checklist of questions.

The ride becomes a swap of stories—journalism and 9/11, the mechanics of production, and the odd role affectations play in everyday pop-culture dialogue. What started as a commute ends up as a reminder that connection is both an art and a discipline.

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SPEAKER_00 0:10

Welcome to another episode of Rideshair Road Talk, Conversations Emmotion, a podcast where we create unfiltered talk space that examines the meaningful lives of my passengers while engaging in personal and topical discussions. I'm your host, and driver, John Foddett. And we're cruising the streets of Washington, D.C. Buckle up. Let's drive. Business or pleasure?

SPEAKER_02 0:36

Pleasure. Alright. Sort of.

SPEAKER_00 0:38

I drove through St. Louis once.

SPEAKER_02 0:40

Oh, did you?

SPEAKER_00 0:41

That's about it.

SPEAKER_02 0:42

Did you like it?

SPEAKER_00 0:43

From what I saw from the highway, sure.

SPEAKER_02 0:45

You're like fair enough. Looks like a family. I'm like, look, the arch. Big ass arch.

SPEAKER_00 0:51

What's the connection point? You have friends there? My family's there.

SPEAKER_02 0:55

It's my grandpa's 80th birthday.

SPEAKER_00 0:56

Oh, okay. That's cool.

SPEAKER_02 0:57

You know.

SPEAKER_00 0:58

I will not insult St. Louis any any longer.

SPEAKER_02 1:01

No, that's really fine. Okay. Misery, misery. It's not a coincidence, I fear.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

What time's uh your flight?

SPEAKER_02 1:11

650.

SPEAKER_00 1:13

And let me see what's going on with this navigation. It's alright. You should be okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

I'll be fine. I feel like we're fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:21

We actually like really can this flight.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Gives you about an hour, I think. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:25

Yeah, yeah. We're fine.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

Do you have like uh clear or pre-check or anything like that?

SPEAKER_02 1:32

Oxygen tank exploding.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

Sometimes they'll let you piggyback.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

You need to get pre-checked.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

That dog is straight up chilling. It's not even blinking.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Hi, Poopy! Hi, Poopy, Pookie. We got big ears. Oh, there's another one.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

Nice.

unknown 1:53

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 1:53

Okay, we do not want him in our car.

SPEAKER_02 1:57

Perhaps so. Look at those teeth. He also looks like he likes can't see low-key. Yeah, he does look kind of. His eyes are looking a little, but he's still got big teeth.

SPEAKER_00 2:09

What's funny?

SPEAKER_02 2:10

Who would it was ears? Top big ears.

SPEAKER_00 2:12

I have a giant Bernese mountain dog. They're so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

I love those dogs.

SPEAKER_00 2:18

Yeah, they're like they're like human Velcro. They just they would not leave you alone. Like, if you're on the couch watching TV, he wants to be on top of you, like on your chest. I'm like, bro, you're like 130 pounds. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_02 2:32

Thinks he's a lap dog. Yeah. Wait, what's his name?

SPEAKER_00 2:35

Buddy.

SPEAKER_02 2:36

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

It's not very original.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

It's not, but it's a classic.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

But I've got two boys, and when they were younger, I just say, hey, buddy, and all three come.

SPEAKER_02 2:46

So that's cute.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Three birds. Allergies or cold.

SPEAKER_02 2:53

Asthma.

SPEAKER_00 2:54

Asthma. Alright, there's a caddyshack reference, but you're probably too young for it, so I won't bother.

SPEAKER_02 3:00

But it sounds like it might be funny.

SPEAKER_00 3:02

Yeah. If you're like 57 like me, sure.

SPEAKER_02 3:05

My dad's 57, I think. My mom's 57. Alright. Wait, what was your was she born? No.

SPEAKER_00 3:12

You know, if you play that game, if you could pick one age to live for eternity. Like 45.

SPEAKER_03 3:18

Really?

SPEAKER_00 3:18

Oh yeah, absolutely. 100%.

SPEAKER_03 3:21

That's good to know.

SPEAKER_00 3:22

Yeah. Something to aspire to.

SPEAKER_02 3:28

45.

SPEAKER_00 3:28

45. No, don't make the fix. I'm sorry. No, I'm serious.

SPEAKER_02 3:32

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 3:33

Don't make the fix.

SPEAKER_02 3:34

I'm chillaxing at 22 right now.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

You have your health?

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Do you?

SPEAKER_00 3:38

At 45?

SPEAKER_02 3:39

Not everybody does.

SPEAKER_00 3:42

Well, I hope you should. Sure. I mean Sure, I guess you'd rather like Loki, you should have your health at 45. Established career? Sure.

SPEAKER_02 3:50

You should have some like money.

unknown 3:51

True.

SPEAKER_00 3:52

You have wisdom, but you still are old enough to go out and still have some fun and let it fly if you want. Um.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Do you wish you were 45?

SPEAKER_00 4:01

I don't wish for anything anymore because it's all bullshit.

SPEAKER_02 4:06

That is not inspirational to the younger generation at all.

Dogs, Family, And Flight Jitters

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Oh my god, this is a good thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 4:18

You work in media?

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Uh I own a production company.

SPEAKER_02 4:21

That's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

And I actually drive this car for a podcast. I do it downtown twice a week. And uh I work in journals. Well, there you go. Ask me anything, because I did that for 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Oh my god, wait, that's really fun. What's your podcast?

SPEAKER_00 4:38

It's called Rideshare Road Talk.

SPEAKER_02 4:40

Rideshare Road Talk? Wait, why aren't we on the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Do you want to be on the podcast? I usually wait till nighttime down in DC. It's on Apple and Spotify and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

Um first we want to be on the podcast. I love a good podcast. It's really cool.

SPEAKER_00 4:57

And you know what's interesting? So you're in journalism or you're aspiring?

SPEAKER_02 5:01

No, no, she's a journalist. Okay. Well, I'm an editor, but still.

SPEAKER_00 5:06

We have lots to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 5:07

Yeah, I've heard the Washington Examiner as a home page editor.

SPEAKER_00 5:11

Okay. So print editor.

SPEAKER_01 5:13

Umline.

SPEAKER_00 5:16

Okay. So you're doing any video, film, anything like that, or just all okay.

unknown 5:20

No.

SPEAKER_00 5:21

Um, I have done those, but just the the there's so many benefits from doing this that I just find spectacular. One of them that you might be able to relate to is as a producer, and when I go in and and do a corporate interview with an executive or whatever it is, doing this hones your chops to have organic conversations with people, to be disarming, to create a comfortable space that will inhibit someone to relax and give you what you need in terms of a narrative.

SPEAKER_02 5:57

I really felt that from you. Don't be a smart no, I'm serious. I did feel that I felt that energy. That's why I was like I was like gabbing.

SPEAKER_00 6:07

Fair enough. Um so it is transferable. Some people are assholes and don't or don't want to talk, they're having a bad day, they're introverted. Right. Fine. It is what it is. Let's ride in silence. Let's ride in silence. More often than not, everyone has a story, and if you can extract it and present it in a certain way, it can be very engaging.

SPEAKER_03 6:29

I just go to a question signal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:32

There are none. It's just, I mean, organic conversations are the best. I mean, I can steer it a little bit, um, but it shouldn't feel like work because I'm like Ruddy.

SPEAKER_02 6:42

Can we do it?

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Well, we've been doing it. That's it. That's how good I am.

SPEAKER_02 6:45

But no one's recording.

SPEAKER_00 6:46

Sure it is. It's always recording.

SPEAKER_02 6:50

Wait, seriously.

SPEAKER_00 6:51

Yeah, DC is a single single party. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Um DC, it is uh single party consent. And as crazy as the law is, if I'm the one that sets up the device, that's considered single party. Yeah. I always ask people, I always tell them.

SPEAKER_03 7:11

Of course, because that's a technical thing to do.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Of course. And I'm not breaking any boundaries here. It's there's no reason for me not to.

unknown 7:18

Right.

SPEAKER_00 7:19

And I tried it a couple of times where I would redo uh an episode or a conversation and tell someone after the fact it's not worth the uncomfortableness of that.

SPEAKER_02 7:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 7:29

So it's like, hey, this is what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

So true.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

Or there's a segue, like, hey, this is a nice car. I'm like, well, yeah, I don't really do it for that reason. I do it for this reason, and that's why blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_02 7:40

I do like this car. Yeah, me too. Touch O class.

SPEAKER_00 7:45

It grew on me. I was a suburban Tahoe guy for like 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 7:48

Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 7:49

And then the residual values and lease programs when the economy went kind of upside down. Yep. It like was double, and I'm like, well, fuck that, I'm not doing that. And uh Ford offered a good deal. So here we are.

SPEAKER_01 8:02

I like that. She's like fascinated by your mic.

SPEAKER_02 8:04

I am. Why? When I got in here, all I could think was look at that incense dispenser. And I was like, that's crazy that it's back. You're like, that's so smart. I never would have thought to do that.

SPEAKER_00 8:12

It's uh it's a it's two transmitters and a receiver.

SPEAKER_02 8:16

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 8:17

Um, it's all wireless, so that's it's a two-channel uh real deal.

SPEAKER_02 8:22

That's the real deal.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Receiver gasp.

SPEAKER_02 8:24

Wait, how much was it?

SPEAKER_00 8:25

One is there, and then I have one here on my C.

SPEAKER_02 8:28

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

It's my voice, and then that picks up whatever in the back there. I mean, I don't know. I mean, this is like 500 bucks maybe.

SPEAKER_02 8:35

Okay.

Journalism Paths And Media Chops

SPEAKER_00 8:36

Um we have these with all of our camera kits and stuff.

SPEAKER_02 8:40

My gosh.

SPEAKER_00 8:41

And so you can tap that into the camera, use that for interviews. Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 8:45

So what type of your stuff does your company do? Uh tell me about it.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

It's all corporate video. Oh. Um, I was a photojournalist at CNN and um Fox for 20 years. And then that came to an end and started my company. And that's been 15 years. And it's all mostly cor corporate marketing and advertising.

SPEAKER_02 9:08

I'm definitely about to hit you guys up. I work for a nonprofit.

SPEAKER_00 9:11

Cool. That means you don't like to write checks.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:15

But you know what though?

SPEAKER_02 9:16

But you guys can ex get exposure to huge events. I don't know. I don't need exposure. Exposure to execs. So you want that?

SPEAKER_00 9:25

I have that, not to be rude. But you know that did sound kind of rude. I'm sorry. But I apologize. Um, seriously, I'm really good at making people cry. And when people cry, they write checks. So insert that into the nonprofit world where you need someone to empty their pocketbook for your cause.

SPEAKER_02 9:43

I mean, like just for your cause. I was gonna say I work in maternal and infant health, so everyone's crying anyway.

SPEAKER_00 9:49

Um, I'm not cheap, but you know, typically the value proposition of that is exponential, um, depending on what the cause is. Philanthropy. Yeah. We always bring out uh PAs. Uh-huh. Um, they're not interns. I don't do that. But PAs, we pay them yeah. Come out.

SPEAKER_03 10:16

PAs.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Depending on what you want to do. You can shadow a producer or you can shadow a camera crew and help with gear and lighting and things like that.

SPEAKER_03 10:24

Yeah, that sounds really fun. That does sound fun.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

I'm getting ready to not do it anymore, so it has been fun though.

SPEAKER_02 10:32

Wait, what are you doing now? Just the podcasts?

SPEAKER_00 10:34

I mean, I've got a kid in college, I have one graduating from high school this year.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

Oh. Congrats.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Thank you.

SPEAKER_02 10:40

Wait, are they going to college?

SPEAKER_00 10:42

Um, one is at Tennessee currently, just starting his junior year.

SPEAKER_02 10:47

Love it.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Um, and it's like, you know, my business is always gonna be there, but I'm in a position where I'm gonna give away kind of the front end to contractors to do, you know, the filming and all that stuff, and I'll just take the back end to sit at home and do emails and maybe do some editing.

SPEAKER_02 11:07

Yeah. Because you've earned your happiness. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:14

If you only knew. Um I mean it it was a been a great experience making a great book someday, but it's enough. I mean, what do you want to know?

SPEAKER_02 11:24

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 11:25

Everything. I mean, what do you want to know?

SPEAKER_02 11:27

What's your biggest trauma?

SPEAKER_00 11:29

Trauma?

SPEAKER_02 11:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:31

Good question. Um, 9-11, I was up at ground zero filming for a week. I don't really talk about that one too often, but you did ask.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

I did. That's fair enough. My dad was in the I don't know if you know the Deutsche Bank building. Yeah. Yeah. He worked in the Deutsche Bank Building, so he was also there.

SPEAKER_00 11:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:47

But he got out early enough to like really like avoid a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 11:51

Well, I was here that morning in DC. I filmed the Pentagon and then they sent me up that afternoon. Wow. And so I had to pay some guy on a boat like a watt of cash to take me from Liberty State Park across the river to the financial district. That is and then that's where I was for like a week.

SPEAKER_02 12:08

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 12:10

Um not traumatic was on West Side Drive. This is in one of the podcast episodes we were talking about this. Oh there was like an Asian massage parlor that went legit for the week. And we heard this rumor that all the police and fire guys. Oh, what an interesting dog.

SPEAKER_02 12:29

Yeah. Where?

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Look at that thing. Oh, oh, it's like it's like kitty cat fur. Oh, it is like kitty fur.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

It's like a big kitty. It's really that's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Look at its tail. Oh, yeah, look at his tail. That's bizarre.

SPEAKER_02 12:47

What would you call what would you call that? Would you call that a dat or a cog?

SPEAKER_00 12:52

A what?

SPEAKER_02 12:53

Dog cat. Oh.

SPEAKER_00 12:55

Wow. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 12:56

That was good, right? Probably a dat. You think? Not a cog. I guess it's like a cat dog. So cog. Yeah.

The Craft: Disarming For Real Stories

SPEAKER_00 13:05

So Asian massage parlor. We all we all know what happens there, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, apparently, um, they went legit for the week, and we walked in there with the camera crew and a producer, and the place was filled with cops and fire guys in towels. And they were all getting massages and grease downs, and it was like the greatest thing I've ever seen in my life. And I went to the uh the watch commander and said, Hey man, are are you kidding me? He goes, Like, no, they're just this is the world's coming to an end, so this is happening. And we'll be writing citations next week, but for right now, they're doing a great service. And so here are the keys to the city. Oh my god. Jade Spa. That was awesome.

SPEAKER_02 13:45

Wait, that's like really crazy.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

Yeah, it was pretty fun.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

So where did you grow up?

SPEAKER_00 13:52

Here. Did you go to school here? Born in DC, grew up in the suburbs.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

Gasp.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

Went to uh school in Florida for a bit, and then came back. Yeah. Where? Uh Lynn University in Boca, Pretone.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Did you study?

SPEAKER_00 14:08

No, I didn't study anything. I studied how to do cocaine and drugs and drink.

SPEAKER_02 14:12

Well you went to school in Florida, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

In the late 80s. Yeah, true.

SPEAKER_02 14:16

I didn't think about that.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Load uh and then came home and was very fortunate. Start and started and ended my journalism career right here in DC without having to go anywhere.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

Look at that car. Do you see it? It looks like it has a QR code on the side.

SPEAKER_00 14:34

So what do you ladies do besides go to St. Louis for birthday parties?

SPEAKER_02 14:38

We're not from here.

SPEAKER_00 14:39

Well, you're from St. Louis.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

No.

SPEAKER_00 14:41

What do you mean you're not from here?

SPEAKER_02 14:43

Like we're not from this city or this side of the US. But you live here. Yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 14:49

Okay. Well, where's home home?

SPEAKER_02 14:50

I'm from Oregon.

SPEAKER_00 14:52

Really?

SPEAKER_02 14:52

And Grace is from Wisconsin.

SPEAKER_00 14:55

Ooh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:56

So you're in Oregon. Central Oregon.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

Yeah, I've heard that. Yes. My uh uncle, who is no longer with us, but he lived in Ashland.

SPEAKER_02 15:10

Yep. Shakespeare Festival. Exactly. That's cool.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Yeah, cool little town.

SPEAKER_02 15:14

My grandma used to live there, well, p kind of near there. She lived in Eugene. She also lived somewhere else. I kind of forgot. But she used to take me to the Shakespeare Festival. Like I would go visit her and we would go together.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

Nice.

SPEAKER_02 15:25

And one time I went when I was 14 and I met this guy named Adrian, who was 16, and I really liked him. I was like really like at Starcross 11. So my grandma like sat in the hotel room and like watched us from the window.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Wait, how old were you at the time?

SPEAKER_02 15:40

14. Okay. And we were sitting in the hot tub, and I was like trying to be cute and like talk to him, and I almost passed out because I sat in there for too long. And my face turned really red and I had to get in the pool. And then I cried and I had to drink a glass of water. So anyways, Adrian, Adrian, if you're out there, I still think about you. And I still talk about him with my grandma, anyways.

SPEAKER_03 16:04

That's fine.

SPEAKER_00 16:04

But where where in Wisconsin are you from?

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Uh right outside of Madison.

SPEAKER_00 16:08

Okay. Fun town, I hear.

SPEAKER_01 16:12

It is. It's a great town. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:16

Okay. My kid's friend goes to school there. Loves it.

SPEAKER_02 16:22

UW Madison.

SPEAKER_00 16:23

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

But then we came to DC for undergrad.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

Yeah, we met first one year the first day of math workshop, which sucks, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 16:38

Oh sure.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

I mean This girl pulled me through that class by my hair.

SPEAKER_00 16:42

What school did you get did you go to here?

SPEAKER_02 16:43

American.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

Okay. How did you like that, by the way, that experience? It's relatively small.

SPEAKER_02 16:49

It is.

SPEAKER_00 16:50

Um and it's not like GW is kind of like the urban feel. That's kind of subject.

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Fun fact, my s my little my youngest sister is going to GW. Okay. She's moving in in two weeks. So we'll see how she likes that.

SPEAKER_01 17:03

But if you have that you would campus vibe.

SPEAKER_02 17:08

The campus is it's actually awesome. Okay. That's the main thing I would say.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

And like I made a great kid. Yeah, I mean, I felt like it's given me a lot of really good opportunities.

Recording Ethics And Consent Laws

SPEAKER_02 17:26

It has. And I actually know what? I literally probably only had like one professor that I didn't like obsessive. Like almost all my professors were like pretty incredible.

SPEAKER_03 17:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 17:36

Like, really. And like at least half of them like had given me their personal phone number and like texted back and like so you know, that that's something to be said for a small school.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

Yeah, the engagement's important, especially when someone's stroking a check that large.

SPEAKER_02 17:52

Yeah, math or job. Stupid claws.

SPEAKER_00 17:56

I had this interesting conversation with two ladies that were in journalism school. Um, and they were kind of like just lamenting about like the current state of like politics and Trump and what's going on and you know, the whole fake news thing and all that.

SPEAKER_02 18:12

Fair enough.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

And they were like gonna tap out and they didn't want to do it. And I said, And I was like, I said, I don't know. Well, and that's what I said is it's uh it's kind of like a high water mark. There's gonna be a a point in time where it's gonna be really important for people like you to be in that position. Yeah, to keep towing that line. It's kind of like the phenomenon at the Kennedy Center when various people on the board resigned in protest.

SPEAKER_02 18:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:38

If no one's there to keep their foot in the door, then they then then what? Like Ben Foltz. He just left Ben Foltz. There's a joke there because he folded.

SPEAKER_02 18:48

No, yeah, that was good. I liked that. It took me a second, but I already uh I didn't care for that so much.

SPEAKER_00 18:54

Sorry, bro. Sorry you're a relatively famous entertainer.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

I hope you're listening.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

Maybe you should have stayed and endured. Because, you know. We know what happens.

SPEAKER_02 19:08

Anyways, those who bend to the will of authority will never stand up and be a people against them. You later just now. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

I like it.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Thank you. Quote that TM. TM that yeah, it's like really like we uh don't really need to talk about it, I fear, because we've talked about it ad nauseum. And also, like, yeah, we can talk about it, but like also it's just kind of like there I think it's important to talk about, but I think there are times where it's appropriate to be like, I don't really wanna like get into that right now because it's depressing and maybe we just want to like go like low key pretend for like 25 minutes that like it's not like anything. Like let's just get a drink and like not talk about Trump real quick.

SPEAKER_00 20:06

Right, let's just go do cake stands and forget about it all for a minute.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

I do not drink beer. It makes my stomach hurt. If you wanted to know. We like cider.

SPEAKER_00 20:17

I just learned what a dizzy bat was.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

What the hell is that? See?

SPEAKER_00 20:22

And and look, I've been there and done that. There isn't I've done pretty much everything you can possibly do. Except for a dizzy bat. Apparently, you go to like a toy store and you get like the whiffle ball bats, and you snip the bottom of the handle, okay, and then it becomes a hollow vessel, and then you fill that with alcohol.

SPEAKER_02 20:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:41

Beer, mixed drinks holds a lot, apparently.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

Oh, so it's kind of like a borg.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

I I guess. I don't know. But apparently you're supposed to like spin around in a circle ten times and then you shoot the dizzy bats.

SPEAKER_02 20:57

I've seen that.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

And then you puke and fall down, and apparently that's fun.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Apparently that is fun. That doesn't sound like our kind of night. We're not really those girlies up here. We're not the dizzy bat girls.

SPEAKER_00 21:14

Oh come on. That's a good name for a band, by the way.

SPEAKER_02 21:16

Dizzy bat.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

Dizzy bat girls.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

Dizzy bat girls. I want my baby badzy birthday. Me?

SPEAKER_00 21:23

It's a good bad. Oh my god, I like everything.

SPEAKER_02 21:26

I hate when people say that.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

Uh, okay. Um pick.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

You have to pick. Yeah, like that's not.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Like, I have to like lay it out. Yes. Um my god, I really do like everything.

SPEAKER_02 21:41

Hey, like what's your favorite thing? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:43

What like most often like go to put on? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Right now.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Yes. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

It changes with the I hate pop country music.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

Yeah, you can't do it.

SPEAKER_00 21:57

It's formulaic. Same three chords that are sonically predisposed to your ear, rearranged, it's garbage. Oh my god. Happens in pop rock music as well. There is a derivative of country music that originated in Oklahoma called Red Dirt. Oh, and I really have been into that because it's kind of like half rock, half country.

SPEAKER_02 22:21

Okay. I'm looking that up.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

And there's a band called Cross Canadian Ragweed.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Of who uh exactly.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

They are the godfathers of red dirt music.

SPEAKER_02 22:34

I was like, you're in.

SPEAKER_00 22:37

Um they kind of started it like 20 some years ago. And it's like just you know, stripped down, clean lyrics with heavy guitar with a little bit of twang, but it's not like Leonard Skinner's Southern Rock. It's just kind of like country with some ass to it.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:56

Which is kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

That is cool.

SPEAKER_00 22:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

We'll check it out. Yeah, that does sound cool. I'm not like I like like country. You don't love country. But I don't love it. Yeah, I like rock. I like the rock. I like some rock.

Gear Talk: Mics, Kits, And Production

SPEAKER_00 23:09

You know what I don't like also?

SPEAKER_02 23:10

Like when I go we ask you what you like, and then it's like alarming that you went to like what you're doing.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

No, not alarming. No, no, no. When I visit my kid at school, there's this whole sorority thing where they all have to wear white cowboy boots when they go out.

SPEAKER_02 23:24

Oh yeah, jump scare.

SPEAKER_00 23:25

Yeah, I don't know. Oh, but he goes to the city. I don't understand. It's not Texas.

SPEAKER_02 23:31

It doesn't matter. It's still the city. It's still, it's still I don't know. Who? Southern girls. You can't say that unless you say Southern girls. Southern girls. Southern girls. With those fake ass white cowboy boots. And they're like, I got these, they're cracking out skin. Like, girl, you know those are in they're not, and those are in those are from Sheen, and also crocs are endangered, so I'm pretty sure. Are they? Wait, I'm looking it up. I know pandas are.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

So you don't like white white cowboy moves?

SPEAKER_02 24:06

Me? Yes. Sorry. I mean, I don't know. I guess. Many d many species of crocodiles are endangered.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

Honestly, time and a place. I think that like it would be cool if like everyone else wasn't doing it.

SPEAKER_02 24:17

Like, okay, but we talked about this the other day. Right. Trends are trends for a reason. Like stuff is like fake for a reason. Like, it's not always bad. But if there's a way to do it that's cute. No, you're right. But that's what I said. It's not always bad. But yeah, sometimes it's. I love a cowboy boo, but you have to do it the right, yes.

SPEAKER_00 24:33

I think it's the audacity of white.

SPEAKER_02 24:36

The audacity of the white. Like that just doesn't make it.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

It's just it's just obnoxious.

SPEAKER_02 24:42

Wait, I feel like that's like says something else. The audacity of the white.

SPEAKER_00 24:48

Could could be interpreted as a lot of things. It could be interesting. TM again. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:54

You don't trademark brains. What do you say? Quotation, quotation. Quote unquote. Okay, attributed. Attributed.

SPEAKER_01 25:05

Set here first.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

Oh, set here first. I like that. Can you edit that out and say I said set here? Set here first. He's like, I'm not using this. I was gonna say our conversation is not um.

SPEAKER_00 25:19

I do hear all kinds of like little keyword phrases and acronyms that I've never heard before.

SPEAKER_02 25:24

Okay, like what?

SPEAKER_00 25:25

Uh there was a young lady, uh, but she had this saying, uh, what was the acronym?

SPEAKER_02 25:31

Um Wait, did you use that on the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Well, I used the episode, yeah. Okay, yeah, yeah. She wanted to be on.

SPEAKER_02 25:36

Oh.

SPEAKER_00 25:37

For sure. Um reasonably not ugly. In reference to like a guy she was dating.

SPEAKER_02 25:44

Reasonably not ugly?

SPEAKER_00 25:46

And whatever that acronym is. Um R and U. Yeah, yeah. And she's like, coin that it's gonna be something someday, because it always happens to me where I get dumped by these 40-year-old men who are reasonably not ugly, but can't check any other fucking box, and I just won't settle now. I actually love that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Said there first. Wait, that's so funny. What do we say? You know what we say? Whenever we see an attractive man, we just look at each other and go, sexy cana, just spun us. And that's how you know someone is wait, what is that?

SPEAKER_00 26:30

That sounds like it sounds like a country song.

SPEAKER_02 26:33

It's not a country song. What is with you and you have some issues to work out.

SPEAKER_00 26:37

I do, I do. But there was a cadence to your voice that made it sound country.

SPEAKER_02 26:41

Okay, fine, but it's not. It's by outrage.

SPEAKER_00 26:44

It's an affectation. It's an affectation. Yeah. Great word.

SPEAKER_02 26:49

Wait, can we get a def on that?

SPEAKER_00 26:51

Really? Yeah. Well, no, it's not meant to be insulting, but I'll tell you what it means.

SPEAKER_02 26:55

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 26:56

An affectation is when someone uses an accent to make something sound important, even though they don't give a shit about it.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

Okay. Does that make sense? Can you use it like in a different um instant, like an example?

SPEAKER_00 27:16

Um, there is a great scene from a movie. Like a coffee shop scene, and the girls talk like, oh my god, what do you want? Oh my gosh! And then he's like he's like, no, that's an affectation.

SPEAKER_02 27:26

Yeah, and then he's like talking like this. He's like that.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

No, it's not Paul Rod, it's someone else. Who the fuck is it?

SPEAKER_02 27:32

Someone else. Is it that? Is it um the Hulk?

From CNN To Corporate Video

SPEAKER_00 27:35

No, it's the guy who was in Oh fuck. It's the he was in Sex in the City. I don't know. And Louder Milk, some other show. I can't remember. Anyways, if you search coffee heads.

SPEAKER_02 27:49

I see him in my head though, like coffee shop, yeah, and she's like, You're talking like that. And she's like, That's that's not how I'm talking. And he's like, That's an end.

SPEAKER_00 27:57

Oh, and right, and then she snaps out of it and goes, Well, fuck you, man. She's like, There, that's your real voice.

SPEAKER_02 28:03

And he's like, Yeah, there you go. Thank you. Wait, that's really funny that you brought that up. Like, I have that in my brain. Like, that's stored in there. That's filed back, as is every song lyric on the planet. Like, oh, ew, I've never been to this terminal.

SPEAKER_00 28:20

This is the original.

SPEAKER_02 28:22

Oh, this is the original. Like, yeah, it's Southwest. It is. Well, I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

That's who knew Southwest flew out of DCA, number one.

SPEAKER_02 28:31

Yeah, look at his thing. It says Southwest Airlines and it's directing us this way.

SPEAKER_01 28:34

I did not pick Southwest, did I?

SPEAKER_02 28:37

We are on Southwest.

SPEAKER_00 28:40

Are you sure you're not attacked to be in DWI?

SPEAKER_01 28:44

What do you say? Are we sure that we're not to be on BWI?

SPEAKER_02 28:50

Um, don't even say that to me, I'll cry. And I do not cry cute, so let me look at this. Washington DC to St. Louis. See? Imagine I got yours from BWI and mine from DCA. 6 50 p.m. A crash.

SPEAKER_00 29:11

What?

SPEAKER_02 29:12

No, I think. I'm scared.

SPEAKER_00 29:15

Jesus Christ, we are at an airport.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

I know. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

I didn't even love that.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

My bad. My bad to the viewers.

SPEAKER_00 29:22

I don't know what's going on here, but let's let's not do this, because this asshole is gonna do this. What the fuck? Fuck.

unknown 29:30

Yeah, look at that car.

SPEAKER_00 29:32

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 29:32

That's not a car, it's a case.

SPEAKER_00 29:36

Ten points. I'm gonna get you right up here.

SPEAKER_02 29:38

Ten points for Griffindor.

SPEAKER_00 29:39

Oh, that's a free game. That's not ten points.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

Oh, I like the top. Oh no. Oh, it's a sweat. Oh, I like that.

SPEAKER_00 29:46

Okay. I'll have you I can't.

SPEAKER_02 29:52

Goodbye, everybody.

SPEAKER_00 29:54

Let's get real.

unknown 29:57

Woo!

SPEAKER_00 29:58

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